Trap & Field






   With the 2008 Olympics approaching, more people are
becoming interested in Olympic shooting.The SCTP has provided
record numbers of shooters to the Junior Olympics.
As more
young athletes are coming into ATA registered trapshooting, it generates
more interest and questions about Olympic
trapshooting. Trap & Field
Magazine
has asked me to augment my regular monthly column
"Trapshooting  the Olympic Way" to this web page.
   The whole process of how to get in the Olympics is somewhat complex, and it frequently changes. It is my desire to try to make it easier to understand and to lay out helpful guidelines. I encourage  your questions as this website is intended to be a
source of current information on International Trap Shooting,  particularly to young shooters and their parents. 
  
It has been my pleasure to train and work with young shooters over the years who have made it to the podium by earning bronze, silver and gold medals  in both national and international competition. It  is a dream that can become reality for some.

              Contact me with questions at les@greevy.com.

   


 

 

Ask Les Greevy

 

   Where can I get proper coaching and training in the Olympic clay target sports? 

USA Shooting has instituted a new policy establishing Regional Training Centers that focus on the international shotgun sports.  There are currently two such RCTs. The first is Willawalla Creek Gun Club at Saint  Jo, Texas, where Olympian Bret Erickson is head coach. The phone number is 940-759-4695.  Brett’s website is www.bretericksom.com .  The other is my program, the Youth Development Shotgun Team at the North Mountain Sportsmen's Association in Muncy Valley, Pa. My e-mail is les@greevy.com and phone is 570-326-6561.  To achieve the RTC designation the facility, program, and coaches must go through a vetting process established by USA Shooting and meet certain standards as well as carry on an active program of training, competitions and introductory programs for new shooters.  Only programs with a known successful track record achieve the RTC designation.

 Do I have to shoot the 24-gram international load?

Not necessarily.  International trap is shot with a 24-gram payload of shot that can be no larger than size 7, generally at a muzzle velocity of about 1350 fps.  24 grams is almost exactly the same as 7/8 ounce, so that this load can be duplicated easily by re-loaders.  In USA Shooting-sanctioned matches it is not necessary to shoot the 24-gram load unless you are a top-classed shooter or are attempting to make one of the national teams—in which case, it is mandatory.  This rule is unique to the United States and is not applicable worldwide but was introduced to make international trap more available to shooters who do not have access to the international load.  My recommendation, however, is to shoot the international load.  It's easy enough (and with current lead prices, it is much cheaper) to reload and now the factory international loads, especially the imported ones are more readily available.  Even the 7/8 ounce hi-speed promotional loads at the chain stores work reasonably well.

   Should I quit shooting ATA?

Absolutely not.  You need to shoot ATA matches to develop competition experience because there is very little international competition in this country.  Although it is beginning to change with the development of more youth programs and the SCTP state qualifying matches there are really only four national class international trap shoots for you during each year.  These include the spring selection match in the April timeframe, the national championships in June or July and the junior Olympic national championships in August or September followed by the fall selection match typically in September or October.  That is not enough.  It is absolutely necessary that you hone your competition skills in ATA and particularly at the big shoots—state and zone championships, the Satellite Grands, and the Grand American.  That's where you learn how to win.  Some people are concerned that they will not be able to switch back and forth between the different target speeds.  In my experience that has not been a problem.  Several members of the Youth Development Shotgun Team who have achieved National Team, National Development Team, or Junior Olympic Team status are also multiple state champions, Grand champions and ATA All-Americans.  They transfer easily back and forth between ATA and international trap and find that each discipline complements the other and makes them better shooters.  I look at it as cross-training.

 

   Where can I shoot Olympic trap?

The best list of Olympic trap bunkers and addresses, as well as the contact person, phone number and/or e-mail address and website, if they have one appears at BJ McDaniel's website www.deadtargetschool.com .  This website, run by the 20 year assistant national shotgun coach also contains excellent information on training plans, shooting diaries and articles geared to the needs of elite shooters. There is a lot of very useful material there.

     What kind of a gun do I need?

International trap is shot almost exclusively with over- and-under shotguns choked modified to improved modified in the first barrel and I-mod to full in the second. I like the Krieghoff gun especially for double trap because you can set different points of aim for the first and second barrels. Semi-automatics and pump- action guns are very rarely seen.  There are several reasons for this, including the desirability of having two separate chokes for your two shots; the fact that  the shooters stand on a straight (rather than curved) line and the traditional automatic will toss fired shells on the shooter to your right; the need to empty and clear the semi-automatic before changing shooting stations and the need to load two shots which can occur only after the shooter to your left has completed his shots; and the tendency of the semi- automatic to set off the voice-release system when the action is closed.  The sum total of all of these things tend to disturb squad rhythm but are, more importantly, handicaps to the semi-auto shooter.  If you are intending to try Olympic trap, give yourself a fair chance and don't handicap yourself by attempting to shoot with a semi automatic.

     How do I know my child can be competitive in Olympic trap?  

This question gets asked in a lot of different ways and, to some extent it has a number of different answers.  But basically, if a youth is competitive at ATA shooting, there is no reason he/she should not be able to be competitive in international trap.  Olympic trap shooting is a harder game than ATA and the scores are lower--- there is no question about that. While Olympic trap is a slower paced, more focused game, the targets are much faster and the angles harder.  But the qualities that make an outstanding ATA shooter are the same qualities that make an outstanding bunker shooter.  They include focus, determination, commitment, a love of shooting, and tremendous support from family and their communities.  Like ATA it is not a cheap game, but there is much more than just expense involved, as there are a lot of family decisions that have to be made along the way.  But most importantly, there is the dream: the dream of the Olympic gold medal. That has to be an amazingly strong dream for someone to train at the highest level month after month and year after year for the opportunity to qualify as one of the two men or only one woman to represent the United States and shoot at 150 trap targets once every four years at the Olympics.  It is that dream that separates the Olympians from everyone else.  Do you have it?

A word from Dieter
A word from Dieter

And the good news keeps coming from our trapshooters as they continue the Satellite Grand circuit! 

After our guns captured the HAA and HOA at the Spring Grand, the action moved to San Antonio Texas for the Southwestern Grand. Richard Marshall, Jr. captured the Doubles Championship and  HOA followed by Rob Taylor in HOA Runner Up position.  Taylor ran straight hundreds in two doubles events, making for a picture perfect finish! 

Southwestern victory was enjoyed by several of our shooters.  Long time Krieghoff shooters Phil Kiner, Harlan Campbell, Jr. and Rich Kaysa were among the winners, as was Sean Hawley, recent newcomer to our shooting family.  While the veteran shooters were enjoying success, Sub Junior Kross McCarty was blazing championship trails with his K-80.  After capturing five Sub Junior Championships, McCarty finished as Sub Junior HOA Champion.

Some late news reached us from the Southern Grand and Florida State Shoot.  Eugene Ginn of Earleville, MD, took 5th position in the Handicap Championship. A southpaw shooter for most of his shooting career, Ginn took his K-80 Trap Special to the other shoulder after an injury, proving our guns are made to fit.

Keith Heeg enjoyed a win at the Florida State Shoot in the non-resident singles championship.  It all came down to a 75 bird shoot off and a one bird victory.  Trap is all about excitement!

We’re excited by the realization that in the first four Satellite Grands of 2008, the K-80 Trap Special has been the winning gun 13 out of 20 times in the 400 championship.  Designed specifically for trapshooters to catch those rising targets, the Trap Special has become the chosen shooting companion of champions. With the introduction of the new Pro Rib and the fixed choke model, the Trap Special continues to cater to you, the trapshooter.

Now is the perfect time to contact your Krieghoff Dealer about the K-80 Trap Special, as the season reaches full swing.  Visit www.krieghoff.com for more information, and make the champion’s choice!


Sean Hawley

Record 1,130 registered straight Doubles – New ATA Record!
13 Time All American
11 Trap and Field Average Awards (4 first place)
Highest doubles average on record; 99.67 (2002)


Krieghoff K-80 Trap Special
see what's new for 2008!


Les Greevy operates the Youth Development Shotgun Team at the USA Shooting Regional Training Center in Muncy Valley, Pa., where he provides novice- to championship-level training in American and Olympic clay target games for individuals and groups with emphasis on visual, mental and mechanical skills.


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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